Editor’s Note: This was written to update ThinLizzy’s “Ship List – Strong to Weak” from 2014 to take into account advances like Horwasp, Emperor ships, and Quantum Torpedoes.
- (B) is Birdman, (Fe) is Federation, (Fc) is Fascist, (L) is Lizard, (Ro) is Robot
- An asterisk marks a campaign only hull (or race)
- Old Rank is the ship’s Rank in the first list. If this is blank, it wasn’t in ThinLizzy’s.
|001||001||Gorbie Class Battlecarrier||980||10||10|
|002||002||Biocide Class Carrier||860||10||10|
|003||003||Golem Class Baseship||850||6||10|
|004||004||Rush Class Heavy Carrier||645||5||10|
|005||005||Virgo Class Battlestar||625||10||8|
|006||006||Automa Class Baseship||560||4||8|
|008||007||Annihilation Class Battleship||960||10||10|
|009||008||Nova Class Super-dreadnought||650||10||10|
|010||009||Dark Wing Class Battleship||491||10||8|
|011||010||Victorious Class Battleship||451||10||6|
|012||011||Thor Class Heavy Frigate*||293||1||8|
|013||012||Crystal Thunder Class Carrier||320||6||8|
|014||Zilla Class Battlecarrier*||500||10||5|
|015||013||Instrumentality Class Baseship||350||4||7|
|016||014||Super Star Cruiser II*||325||8||5|
|017||015||Madonnzila Class Carrier (©*)||331||4||5|
|018||016||Scorpius Class Heavy Carrier*||360||6||5|
|019||017||T-Rex Class Battleship||421||10||6|
|020||018||Diamond Flame Class Battleship||451||10||6|
|021||019||Missouri Class Battleship||395||8||6|
|022||Lorean Class Temporal Lance*||325||8||6|
|024||020||Kittyhawk Class Carrier||173||4||6|
|025||024||Cybernaut (B*) Class Baseship||340||3||5|
|026||021||Scorpius Class Carrier*||330||5||4|
|028||026||Thor B Class Frigate*||233||1||8|
|029||025||Diplomacy B Class Cruiser*||220||6||6|
|030||028||Thor Class Frigate||173||1||8|
|031||D9 Usva Class Stealth Raider*||347||10||3|
|032||027||Diplomacy Class Cruiser||180||6||6|
|033||Selenite Class Battlecruiser*||240||10||4|
|036||022||Super Star Cruiser||270||8||4|
|037||029||Ill Wind Class Battlecruiser||275||10||2|
|038||030||Deth Specula Heavy Frigate*||183||4||6|
|039||031||Bloodfang Class Carrier||220||7||4|
|040||023||Super Star Carrier (II)||250||6||4|
|041||032||Saurian Class Heavy Frigate*||190||9||3|
|042||033||Super Star Destroyer||250||8||3|
|043||035||Nebula Class Cruiser||170||4||4|
|044||037||Arkham Class Cruiser*||160||6||3|
|045||038||Arkham Class Destroyer*||155||6||3|
|046||039||Arkham Class Frigate||150||6||3|
|047||034||Scorpius Class Light Carrier||315||4||2|
|048||046||(Fe) Loki Class Destroyer||101||2||4|
|049||036||Merlin Class Alchemy Ship||920||8|
|050||040||Gaurdian C Class Destroyer*||130||3||6|
|051||050||(Fe) Vendetta B/C Class Frigate*||100||4||4|
|052||053||(Fe) Vendetta Class Frigate||100||4||4|
|053||041||Resolute Class Battlecruiser||180||8||3|
|054||042||Emerald Class Battlecruiser||180||8||3|
|055||043||Lizard Class Cruiser||160||4||3|
|056||044||Deth Specula Stealth/Armoured*||153||6||4|
|057||045||Neutronic Refinery Ship||712||6||0|
|058||047||D3 Thorn Class Cruiser*||130||3||5|
|059||048||(Fc) Deth Specula Class Frigate||113||6||4|
|060||054||Moscow Class Star Destroyer||173||4||5|
|061||049||Valiant Wind Class Carrier||180||7||3|
|062||049||Valiant Wind Storm-Carrier*||180||7||3|
|063||051||D7 Coldpain Class Cruiser||175||4||2|
|064||048||(B) Deth Specula Class Frigate||113||6||4|
|065||046||(L) Loki Class Destroyer||101||2||4|
|066||052||D3 Thorn Class Frigate*||110||3||5|
|067||055||Pawn (B*) Class Baseship||260||2||2|
|068||056||Banshee Class Destroyer||120||4||2|
|069||064||Wild Banshee Class Destroyer*||120||10||1|
|071||057||Tranquility Class Cruiser||160||4||2|
|072||058||Super Star Frigate||150||5||3|
|073||061||Meteor Class Blockade Runner||90||4||4|
|074||060||D3 Thorn Class Destroyer||90||2||4|
|075||059||Vendetta Class Stealth Frigate*||100||4||4|
|076||053||(L) Vendetta (B*) Class Frigate||100||4||4|
|077||062||Cygnus Class Destroyer||90||4||4|
|078||072||Nocturne Class Destroyer||90||4||2|
|079||063||Gaurdian (B*) Class Destroyer||80||3||6|
|080||066||Banshee B Class Destroyer*||120||7||1|
|081||065||Saurian Class Frigate*||130||7||2|
|082||Pyrite Class Frigate*||173||8||1|
|083||067||Saber Class Shield Generator*||173||10||1|
|084||068||Onyx Class Frigate||153||8||1|
|085||069||Patriot Class Light Carrier||90||2||6|
|088||071||Saurian Class Light Cruiser||120||4||2|
|089||073||Iron Lady Frigate/Command Ship*||150||8||2|
|090||074||Firecloud Class Cruiser||120||6||2|
|091||075||Bright Heart (Light*) Destroyer||80||2||4|
|092||076||Moscow Class Star Escort||173||4||2|
|093||077||Enlighten Research Vessel||160||5||1|
|094||078||Saber Class Frigate||153||10|
|095||079||Fearless Wing Cruiser||150||6||1|
|096||080||Ruby Class Light Cruiser||120||4||2|
|097||081||Cat’s Paw Class Destroyer||120||4||2|
|098||082||Cobol Class Research Cruiser||115||4||2|
|099||083||H-Ross Class Light Carrier||170||2||2|
|100||084||Lady Royale Class Cruiser||130||4||1|
|101||085||Sage Class Frigate/Repair Ship*||100||4||2|
|102||086||Dwarfstar II Class Transport*||110||6|
|103||087||Quietus Class Cruiser||130||4||1|
|104||088||White Falcon Class Cruiser||120||4||1|
|105||089||Sky Garnet Class Destroyer/Frigate*||90||7||1|
|106||090||D7a/b* Painmaker Class Cruiser||170||4|
|107||091||D19b Nefarious Class Destroyer||96||7|
|108||092||Gemini Class Transport||140||4||1|
|109||093||Dwarfstar Class Transport||100||6|
|110||094||Brynhild Class Escort||90||4|
|113||096||Br5 Kaye Class Torpedo Boat||57||4||1|
|115||097||Little Pest Class Escort||75||6|
|116||098||Iron Slave Class Baseship/Tug*||60||1||2|
|117||099||Opal Class Torpedo Boat||67||1||1|
|118||100||Sapphire Class Space Ship*||57||1||1|
|119||101||Little Joe Class (Light*) Escort||65||6|
|120||102||Little Pest Light Escort*||55||6|
|121||091||D19c* Nefarious Destroyer||46||7|
|122||103||Red Wind (Storm*) Carrier||70||2||2|
|123||104||Sagittarius Class Transport||99||2||1|
|124||105||Br4 Class Gunship||55||5|
|125||106||Taurus Class Scout||95||2|
|126||107||(Fc) Armoured Ore Condenser*||85||2|
|127||107||(Ro) Armoured Ore Condenser*||85||2|
|128||110||Imperial Topaz Class Gunboats*||65||5|
|131||115||Topaz Class Gunboats*||65||4|
|132||108||(Fe) Eros Class Research Vessel||35||2|
|133||109||Bohemian Class Survey Ship||32||2|
|134||112||Outrider Class Scout/Transport*||75||1|
|135||113||Aries Class Transport||69||2|
|137||117||Topez Class Gunboat||65||4|
|138||118||Reptile Class Destroyer/Escort*||60||4|
|139||119||Taurus Class Transport*||50||2|
|140||120||Watcher Class Scout||47||2|
|141||121||Serpent Class Escort||55||2|
|142||122||Swift Heart Class Scout||45||2|
|144||124||Mig Class Scout/Transport||37||2|
|146||126||Deep Space Scout||30||4|
|147||108||(L) Eros Class Research Vessel||35||2|
|148||127||Falcon Class Escort||30||2|
|149||128||B200 Class Probe||30||2|
|154||132||Dungeon Class Stargate*||1970|
|155||133||Super Transport Freighter||160|
|156||134||Large Deep Space Freighter||130|
|157||135||Chameleon Class Freighter*||121|
|158||136||Medium Deep Space Freighter||60|
|164||137||Small Deep Space Freighter||30|
|165||138||Neutronic Fuel Carrier||10|
ThinLizzy’s original idea is simple: Give each ship the maximum weapon tech and all the racial advantages it would have in the hands of the original owner. Pit the ships against each other on both sides and then rank them, with the strongest at the top and the weakest at the bottom. If there is an absolute tie then the more “useful” ship goes on top. Repeat for every ship until you have a list. Simple, right? (Heh.) The devil is in the details.
If you find a discrepancy where you think my list is inaccurate – you might be right! Please, though, read the notes first.
I assume you will have read ThinLizzy’s methodology and comments first.
I have added and edited but much of the table above (not to mention the idea itself) are all ThinLizzy’s. I updated, polished, and made some different choices, but I did a small part of the work; this effort remains indebted to the original.
This isn’t meant to say anything about the actual combat utility of these ships in a fleet or what other value they may have. It simply ranks them according to what you can expect to happen from a one-on-one fight presuming all tech is the best. That’s all.
- All ships were simulated with maximum weaponry.
- All ships were simulated using their origin race.
- Advantages are those in Standard, including Fascist Fast Beams, Lizard Mass Bonus, et cetera.
- Simulations were done in Nu’s battle simulator with results from both sides.
- Ships achieved a victory if they had a higher win percentage than their opponent once stalemates of any kind were removed. Sometimes this meant a ship advanced even if it only achieved a victory rate of under 50%.
- There was no rounding. Higher win by even 0.5% was advanced.
The initial sorting was done by using the original list and placing new ships (or changed old ones) into it. Generally, so long as a ship kept achieving victory (defined as the higher win percentage) it kept moving up until it reached 2 ships in a row it couldn’t beat.
Importantly, note that there are anomalies in the list that stopped ships advancing in the original that I opted to let continue. My theory was that, generally, a commander wants to know what enemy warships are prey to a particular ship, and while Merlins and Neutronic Refineries are used in battle, they are so unusual (extremely heavy for their armament) that it distorted the combat ship results: The list would lead you to believe certain ships wouldn’t win against ships above the “Merlin line’ — but they would, and sometimes commandingly so.
The result of this policy creates two kinds of caveats:
- There are some unusual ships — particularly the Neutronic Refinery and Merlin — that are underrepresented for what they can do.
- There is some odd skipping behavior among hulls of the same race. Sometimes a ship couldn’t beat a single ship of its own race but could continue on against enemy hulls. For this list, accuracy against the enemy is prioritized. Against the same race, some of the ship rankings aren’t quite right.
- Quantum Torpedoes had a distinct impact on Federation ships, but the effect was more pronounced at the lower ends of the power list. Once past a certain mass, an additional volley and the increased damage doesn’t produce as pronounced an effect.
- I expected double beams to have more impact than they did. They made Fascist ships obviously more successful against certain carriers, but below a certain mass the contest was decided by torpedoes alone: the beams never came into play. For bigger ships torpedo damage far outstripped beam damage, again making the effect of the double beams minor.
- I was surprised where some of the Horwasp ships fell because of their mass. The effect of clans on board adding to mass is quite profound.
Any errors are mine, and not the original author’s. If you do notice anything, please let us know and we will correct it.
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