Standard Ship List – From Stronger to Weaker (Revised)

Editor’s Note: This was written to update ThinLizzy’s “Ship List – Strong to Weak” from 2014 to take into account advances like Horwasp, Emperor ships, and Quantum Torpedoes.

NOTES

(B) is Birdman, (Fe) is Federation, (Fc) is Fascist, (L) is Lizard, (Ro) is Robot
An asterisk marks a campaign only hull (or race)
Old Rank is the ship’s Rank in the first list. If this is blank, it wasn’t in ThinLizzy’s.

A	old rank	ship	mass	beams	tubes	bays
001	001	Gorbie Class Battlecarrier	980	10		10
002	002	Biocide Class Carrier	860	10		10
003	003	Golem Class Baseship	850	6		10
004	004	Rush Class Heavy Carrier	645	5		10
005	005	Virgo Class Battlestar	625	10		8
006	006	Automa Class Baseship	560	4		8
007		Hive*	475	9	6	6
008	007	Annihilation Class Battleship	960	10	10
009	008	Nova Class Super-dreadnought	650	10	10
010	009	Dark Wing Class Battleship	491	10	8
011	010	Victorious Class Battleship	451	10	6
012	011	Thor Class Heavy Frigate*	293	1	8
013	012	Crystal Thunder Class Carrier	320	6		8
014		Zilla Class Battlecarrier*	500	10		5
015	013	Instrumentality Class Baseship	350	4		7
016	014	Super Star Cruiser II*	325	8		5
017	015	Madonnzila Class Carrier (©*)	331	4		5
018	016	Scorpius Class Heavy Carrier*	360	6		5
019	017	T-Rex Class Battleship	421	10	6
020	018	Diamond Flame Class Battleship	451	10	6

B	old rank	ship	mass	beams	tubes	bays
021	019	Missouri Class Battleship	395	8	6
022		Lorean Class Temporal Lance*	325	8	6
023		Brood*	145	6	3	6
024	020	Kittyhawk Class Carrier	173	4		6
025	024	Cybernaut (B*) Class Baseship	340	3		5
026	021	Scorpius Class Carrier*	330	5		4
027		Soldier*	185	3	6	3
028	026	Thor B Class Frigate*	233	1	8
029	025	Diplomacy B Class Cruiser*	220	6	6
030	028	Thor Class Frigate	173	1	8
031		D9 Usva Class Stealth Raider*	347	10	3
032	027	Diplomacy Class Cruiser	180	6	6
033		Selenite Class Battlecruiser*	240	10	4
034		Jacker*	200		3
035		Bloodfang*	220	7	5
036	022	Super Star Cruiser	270	8		4
037	029	Ill Wind Class Battlecruiser	275	10	2
038	030	Deth Specula Heavy Frigate*	183	4	6
039	031	Bloodfang Class Carrier	220	7		4
040	023	Super Star Carrier (II)	250	6		4

C	old rank	ship	mass	beams	tubes	bays
041	032	Saurian Class Heavy Frigate*	190	9	3
042	033	Super Star Destroyer	250	8		3
043	035	Nebula Class Cruiser	170	4	4
044	037	Arkham Class Cruiser*	160	6	3
045	038	Arkham Class Destroyer*	155	6	3
046	039	Arkham Class Frigate	150	6	3
047	034	Scorpius Class Light Carrier	315	4		2
048	046	(Fe) Loki Class Destroyer	101	2	4
049	036	Merlin Class Alchemy Ship	920	8
050	040	Gaurdian C Class Destroyer*	130	3	6
051	050	(Fe) Vendetta B/C Class Frigate*	100	4	4
052	053	(Fe) Vendetta Class Frigate	100	4	4
053	041	Resolute Class Battlecruiser	180	8	3
054	042	Emerald Class Battlecruiser	180	8	3
055	043	Lizard Class Cruiser	160	4	3
056	044	Deth Specula Stealth/Armoured*	153	6	4
057	045	Neutronic Refinery Ship	712	6	0
058	047	D3 Thorn Class Cruiser*	130	3	5
059	048	(Fc) Deth Specula Class Frigate	113	6	4
060	054	Moscow Class Star Destroyer	173	4		5

D	old rank	ship	mass	beams	tubes	bays
061	049	Valiant Wind Class Carrier	180	7		3
062	049	Valiant Wind Storm-Carrier*	180	7		3
063	051	D7 Coldpain Class Cruiser	175	4	2
064	048	(B) Deth Specula Class Frigate	113	6	4
065	046	(L) Loki Class Destroyer	101	2	4
066	052	D3 Thorn Class Frigate*	110	3	5
067	055	Pawn (B*) Class Baseship	260	2		2
068	056	Banshee Class Destroyer	120	4	2
069	064	Wild Banshee Class Destroyer*	120	10	1
070		Accelerator*	365	3
071	057	Tranquility Class Cruiser	160	4	2
072	058	Super Star Frigate	150	5	3
073	061	Meteor Class Blockade Runner	90	4	4
074	060	D3 Thorn Class Destroyer	90	2	4
075	059	Vendetta Class Stealth Frigate*	100	4	4
076	053	(L) Vendetta (B*) Class Frigate	100	4	4
077	062	Cygnus Class Destroyer	90	4	4
078	072	Nocturne Class Destroyer	90	4	2
079	063	Gaurdian (B*) Class Destroyer	80	3	6
080	066	Banshee B Class Destroyer*	120	7	1

E	old rank	ship	mass	beams	tubes	bays
081	065	Saurian Class Frigate*	130	7	2
082		Pyrite Class Frigate*	173	8	1
083	067	Saber Class Shield Generator*	173	10	1
084	068	Onyx Class Frigate	153	8	1
085	069	Patriot Class Light Carrier	90	2		6
086		Stinger*	75	3	3
087	070	Skyfire Cruiser/Transport*	150	4	2
088	071	Saurian Class Light Cruiser	120	4	2
089	073	Iron Lady Frigate/Command Ship*	150	8	2
090	074	Firecloud Class Cruiser	120	6	2
091	075	Bright Heart (Light*) Destroyer	80	2	4
092	076	Moscow Class Star Escort	173	4		2
093	077	Enlighten Research Vessel	160	5	1
094	078	Saber Class Frigate	153	10
095	079	Fearless Wing Cruiser	150	6	1
096	080	Ruby Class Light Cruiser	120	4	2
097	081	Cat’s Paw Class Destroyer	120	4	2
098	082	Cobol Class Research Cruiser	115	4	2
099	083	H-Ross Class Light Carrier	170	2		2
100	084	Lady Royale Class Cruiser	130	4	1

F	old rank	ship	mass	beams	tubes	bays
101	085	Sage Class Frigate/Repair Ship*	100	4	2
102	086	Dwarfstar II Class Transport*	110	6
103	087	Quietus Class Cruiser	130	4	1
104	088	White Falcon Class Cruiser	120	4	1
105	089	Sky Garnet Class Destroyer/Frigate*	90	7	1
106	090	D7a/b* Painmaker Class Cruiser	170	4
107	091	D19b Nefarious Class Destroyer	96	7
108	092	Gemini Class Transport	140	4		1
109	093	Dwarfstar Class Transport	100	6
110	094	Brynhild Class Escort	90	4
111		Armoured Nest*	101	3
112	095	B222(b*) Destroyer	86	7
113	096	Br5 Kaye Class Torpedo Boat	57	4	1
114		Sentry*	56	6
115	097	Little Pest Class Escort	75	6
116	098	Iron Slave Class Baseship/Tug*	60	1		2
117	099	Opal Class Torpedo Boat	67	1	1
118	100	Sapphire Class Space Ship*	57	1	1
119	101	Little Joe Class (Light*) Escort	65	6
120	102	Little Pest Light Escort*	55	6

G	old rank	ship	mass	beams	bays
121	091	D19c* Nefarious Destroyer	46	7
122	103	Red Wind (Storm*) Carrier	70	2	2
123	104	Sagittarius Class Transport	99	2	1
124	105	Br4 Class Gunship	55	5
125	106	Taurus Class Scout	95	2
126	107	(Fc) Armoured Ore Condenser*	85	2
127	107	(Ro) Armoured Ore Condenser*	85	2
128	110	Imperial Topaz Class Gunboats*	65	5
129	111	Ru30 Gunboats*	65	5
130	114	Ru25 Gunboats*	65	4
131	115	Topaz Class Gunboats*	65	4
132	108	(Fe) Eros Class Research Vessel	35	2
133	109	Bohemian Class Survey Ship	32	2
134	112	Outrider Class Scout/Transport*	75	1
135	113	Aries Class Transport	69	2
136	116	Ru25 Gunboat	65	4
137	117	Topez Class Gunboat	65	4
138	118	Reptile Class Destroyer/Escort*	60	4
139	119	Taurus Class Transport*	50	2
140	120	Watcher Class Scout	47	2

H	old rank	ship	mass	beams	bays
141	121	Serpent Class Escort	55	2
142	122	Swift Heart Class Scout	45	2
143	123	Armoured/Heavy* Transport	68	1
144	124	Mig Class Scout/Transport	37	2
145	125	B41(b*) Explorer	35	4
146	126	Deep Space Scout	30	4
147	108	(L) Eros Class Research Vessel	35	2
148	127	Falcon Class Escort	30	2
149	128	B200 Class Probe	30	2
150	129	Small/Medium* Transport	30	2
151	130	Q Tanker	80		1
152		Tantrum Liner*	25	1
153	131	PI21 Probe	24	1
154	132	Dungeon Class Stargate*	1970
155	133	Super Transport Freighter	160
156	134	Large Deep Space Freighter	130
157	135	Chameleon Class Freighter*	121
158	136	Medium Deep Space Freighter	60
159		Protofield*	31
160		Farm*	31
161		Nest*	31
162		Rock*	31
163		Dunghill*	31
164	137	Small Deep Space Freighter	30
165	138	Neutronic Fuel Carrier	10

ThinLizzy’s original idea is simple: Give each ship the maximum weapon tech and all the racial advantages it would have in the hands of the original owner. Pit the ships against each other on both sides and then rank them, with the strongest at the top and the weakest at the bottom. If there is an absolute tie then the more “useful” ship goes on top. Repeat for every ship until you have a list. Simple, right? (Heh.) The devil is in the details.

If you find a discrepancy where you think my list is inaccurate – you might be right! Please, though, read the notes first.

GENERAL NOTES

I assume you will have read ThinLizzy’s methodology and comments first.

I have added and edited but much of the table above (not to mention the idea itself) are all ThinLizzy’s. I updated, polished, and made some different choices, but I did a small part of the work; this effort remains indebted to the original.

This isn’t meant to say anything about the actual combat utility of these ships in a fleet or what other value they may have. It simply ranks them according to what you can expect to happen from a one-on-one fight presuming all tech is the best. That’s all.

METHOD

All ships were simulated with maximum weaponry.
All ships were simulated using their origin race.
Advantages are those in Standard, including Fascist Fast Beams, Lizard Mass Bonus, et cetera.
Simulations were done in Nu’s battle simulator with results from both sides.
Ships achieved a victory if they had a higher win percentage than their opponent once stalemates of any kind were removed. Sometimes this meant a ship advanced even if it only achieved a victory rate of under 50%.
There was no rounding. Higher win by even 0.5% was advanced.

SORTING

The initial sorting was done by using the original list and placing new ships (or changed old ones) into it. Generally, so long as a ship kept achieving victory (defined as the higher win percentage) it kept moving up until it reached 2 ships in a row it couldn’t beat.

Importantly, note that there are anomalies in the list that stopped ships advancing in the original that I opted to let continue. My theory was that, generally, a commander wants to know what enemy warships are prey to a particular ship, and while Merlins and Neutronic Refineries are used in battle, they are so unusual (extremely heavy for their armament) that it distorted the combat ship results: The list would lead you to believe certain ships wouldn’t win against ships above the “Merlin line’ — but they would, and sometimes commandingly so.

The result of this policy creates two kinds of caveats:

There are some unusual ships — particularly the Neutronic Refinery and Merlin — that are underrepresented for what they can do.
There is some odd skipping behavior among hulls of the same race. Sometimes a ship couldn’t beat a single ship of its own race but could continue on against enemy hulls. For this list, accuracy against the enemy is prioritized. Against the same race, some of the ship rankings aren’t quite right.

ANALYSIS

Quantum Torpedoes had a distinct impact on Federation ships, but the effect was more pronounced at the lower ends of the power list. Once past a certain mass, an additional volley and the increased damage doesn’t produce as pronounced an effect.

I expected double beams to have more impact than they did. They made Fascist ships obviously more successful against certain carriers, but below a certain mass the contest was decided by torpedoes alone: the beams never came into play. For bigger ships torpedo damage far outstripped beam damage, again making the effect of the double beams minor.

I was surprised where some of the Horwasp ships fell because of their mass. The effect of clans on board adding to mass is quite profound.

FINAL NOTE

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Standard Ship List – From Stronger to Weaker (Revised)

NOTES

GENERAL NOTES

METHOD

SORTING

ANALYSIS

FINAL NOTE

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NOTES

GENERAL NOTES

METHOD

SORTING

ANALYSIS

FINAL NOTE

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